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> Kremer Pigmente - lost in the Paradise of pigments!
MANFIO
post Jul 31 2010, 06:44 PM
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Experimenting is adictive, and I am a lost case.... if you use the search engine on Kremer Pigmente's site with the word "violin"
it will turn out with 219 matches... Ok, it includes glue, books, etc. but still there are many many pigments they reccomend for
violin varnishes starting with their "Violin Varnish Assortment" (in which I am not interested, but may be a good indication of the
most suited single pigments for violin varnishes):


14300 Violin-Varnish Assortment
27 x 25 ml glasses, in a wooden case
Contents
17050 - Natural Sienna, Monte Amiata
23350 - Indian Yellow imitation
23490 - Purple-Red
23493 - Gubbio Red
23500 - Paliogen® Maroon
23582 - CINQUASIA® Gold, brown-gold
23585 - CINQUASIA® Gold, red-gold
23610 - Alizarine Crimson dark
24000 - Paliotol® Yellow-Orange
37000 - Dragon's Blood, powder
37050 - Gamboge
37202 - Madder Lake
37392 - Stil de Grain
40430 - Burnt Sienna no. 3
41000 - Van Dyck Brown
42100 - Carmine Naccarat
43500 - Cobalt Yellow
43880 - Intensive Yellow
52200 - Translucent Yellow, PY 42.77492
52300 - Translucent Orange
52350 - Translucent Orange-Red
52400 - Translucent Red medium
60050 - Mastic
60100 - Sandarac
60450 - Shellac Bleached Very Light
60490 - Seed Lac
73054 - Linseed Oil, cold-pressed

Some of them are made of iron oxides (as the translucent orange, red and yellow, in linseed oil (no mulling, thanks God!), concentrated, which may be insteresting).

Some of them are quite enigmatic, like these ones:

IWA-Enogu pigments (cadmium glass powder)

Pearl Luster Chroma Red (Mica laminated with titanium dioxide, tin oxide and silicium dioxide).

I know, no free lunch, no bean spilling, but what is your experience with some of them?



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luthier9010
post Jul 31 2010, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE (MANFIO @ Aug 1 2010, 12:44 AM) *
Experimenting is adictive, and I am a lost case.... if you use the search engine on Kremer Pigmente's site with the word "violin"
it will turn out with 219 matches... Ok, it includes glue, books, etc. but still there are many many pigments they reccomend for
violin varnishes starting with their "Violin Varnish Assortment" (in which I am not interested, but may be a good indication of the
most suited single pigments for violin varnishes):


14300 Violin-Varnish Assortment
27 x 25 ml glasses, in a wooden case
Contents
17050 - Natural Sienna, Monte Amiata
23350 - Indian Yellow imitation
23490 - Purple-Red
23493 - Gubbio Red
23500 - Paliogen® Maroon
23582 - CINQUASIA® Gold, brown-gold
23585 - CINQUASIA® Gold, red-gold
23610 - Alizarine Crimson dark
24000 - Paliotol® Yellow-Orange
37000 - Dragon's Blood, powder
37050 - Gamboge
37202 - Madder Lake
37392 - Stil de Grain
40430 - Burnt Sienna no. 3
41000 - Van Dyck Brown
42100 - Carmine Naccarat
43500 - Cobalt Yellow
43880 - Intensive Yellow
52200 - Translucent Yellow, PY 42.77492
52300 - Translucent Orange
52350 - Translucent Orange-Red
52400 - Translucent Red medium
60050 - Mastic
60100 - Sandarac
60450 - Shellac Bleached Very Light
60490 - Seed Lac
73054 - Linseed Oil, cold-pressed

Some of them are made of iron oxides (as the translucent orange, red and yellow, in linseed oil (no mulling, thanks God!), concentrated, which may be insteresting).

Some of them are quite enigmatic, like these ones:

IWA-Enogu pigments (cadmium glass powder)

Pearl Luster Chroma Red (Mica laminated with titanium dioxide, tin oxide and silicium dioxide).

I know, no free lunch, no bean spilling, but what is your experience with some of them?

Me too Luis. I love messing with this stuff. I've got a small cabinet full of Kremer pigments, oils, resins, and just general stuff. Sometimes things don't turn out the way planed, but then again sometimes they do. Later, Berl
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Tets Kimura
post Aug 1 2010, 05:53 AM
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QUOTE (MANFIO @ Jul 31 2010, 07:44 PM) *
Some of them are quite enigmatic, like these ones:
IWA-Enogu pigments (cadmium glass powder)

Iwa-Enogu is a type of pigments which are used in traditional Japanese painting. They are made from minerals such as lapis lazuli, azurite, malachite, cinnabar, and orpiment.
Enogu means paint, and Iwa means rock.


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MANFIO
post Aug 1 2010, 07:42 AM
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Yeah...
Have you ever tried Iwa-Enogu pigments Tets?


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Tets Kimura
post Aug 1 2010, 09:57 PM
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No, I haven't tried them. I can't see they'll be much different from Western counterpart.

In Japanese painting, these pigments are typically mixed with thin animal glue to make paints, and that's not an unique method, either.


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MANFIO
post Aug 2 2010, 05:37 AM
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Thanks Tets!


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