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[jfield]

Can someone give me some idea of who may have been or where this violin was made? You will see a unique design in the perfling at the button area. It is a composite (top by another maker) that's in my shop for a neck reset and a few minor repairs. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[IBK]

Can someone give me some idea of who may have been or where this violin was made? You will see a unique design in the perfling at the button area. It is a composite (top by another maker) that's in my shop for a neck reset and a few minor repairs. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Nice fiddle. I had one some years ago which resembled this violin and mine was Klingenthal work. It had the same inlay design at the button. The body of your violin also reminds me of the work of the Klotz family of Mittenwald.

[BobH]

Can't help with your queries but have a few of my own....is the neck reset to correct pitch or alinement, or both? The non-symmetry in the crown certainly doesn't speak well for the workmanship in replacing the neck. This break went far beyond the customary perfling line, sadly, because of the 'unique' placement of the perfling. You might consider doing the owner a favor and put conventional perfling across the button(With apologies to Wilkinowski). Good luck on the repair...hope the original repairer didn't leave more problems than were solved. Hopefully (again) the crown hides a well done lamination.

My guess is this is not the original neck...wierd placement of the 'fake' peghole bushings.

[jfield]

Nice fiddle. I had one some years ago which resembled this violin and mine was Klingenthal work. It had the same inlay design at the button. The body of your violin also reminds me of the work of the Klotz family of Mittenwald.

IBK,
Thanks for the response! Body at one time had the "inset-saddle" that is often seen in Mittenwald work. It was "filled-in" by some later repair and replaced with a typical saddle. Again, thanks for the help!

Jerry

[jfield]

Can't help with your queries but have a few of my own....is the neck reset to correct pitch or alinement, or both? The non-symmetry in the crown certainly doesn't speak well for the workmanship in replacing the neck. This break went far beyond the customary perfling line, sadly, because of the 'unique' placement of the perfling. You might consider doing the owner a favor and put conventional perfling across the button(With apologies to Wilkinowski). Good luck on the repair...hope the original repairer didn't leave more problems than were solved. Hopefully (again) the crown hides a well done lamination.

My guess is this is not the original neck...wierd placement of the 'fake' peghole bushings.

BobH,
Thanks for your observations. The neck reset is to correct the pitch which is currently significantly low. Fortunately, the original repair of the break at the button has a nice doubling/lamination to reinforce the area. If you have more thoughts I would be eager to hear them.

Jerry

[LongNeck]

The neck reset is to correct the pitch which is currently significantly low.

Jerry,

Sorry for a dumb question, but does 'pitch' refer to the normal side-to-side downward inclination of the fingerboard, which (together with the lower string action of the treble strings) implies that the bridge has to be shorter on the treble side? If so, I have the same problem with my own fiddle.

Did this fiddle have a through neck?

Thanks.

Kurt

[Ratcliffiddles]

I too had one with identical purfling at back button. It was a long time ago, but I am pretty sure it was nice Neukirchen work 1820, and this looks similar. and would have had a through neck, before the neck graft...
That scroll doesn't look out of place, and I believe the peg bushings are exactly that.
Fiddle doesn't remind me of Mittenwald.

[jfield]

Jerry,

Sorry for a dumb question, but does 'pitch' refer to the normal side-to-side downward inclination of the fingerboard, which (together with the lower string action of the treble strings) implies that the bridge has to be shorter on the treble side? If so, I have the same problem with my own fiddle.

Did this fiddle have a through neck?

Thanks.

Kurt

Kurt,
The "pitch" in this case if a reference to the over-all angle of the neck.fingerboard over the body of the instrument....not the "tilt" of the fingerboard as you describe which can result in the treble side being a bit low and sometimes interfering with bowing.

The instrument may have originally had a through neck but if so, it had been replaced with what is now a traditional kind of morticed neck.

Thanks for reviving the post!

Jerry

[jfield]

I too had one with identical purfling at back button. It was a long time ago, but I am pretty sure it was nice Neukirchen work 1820, and this looks similar. and would have had a through neck, before the neck graft...
That scroll doesn't look out of place, and I believe the peg bushings are exactly that.
Fiddle doesn't remind me of Mittenwald.

Thanks for the insights...I recently saw one in an auction with the same purfling design and reminded me of this one. Maybe I should have tried to snag it but was more intent on another instrument or two. Appreciate your post!