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#1 Rviolist

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 07:20 PM

Hi!

Everyone knows that makers are still experimenting with viola' shape and size... I've seen quite a few instruments using the shape of the picture bellow... Does this shape have a name? Is it inspired in some earlier instrument or it was created by the maker Iizuka?

Thanks a lot!

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#2 MANFIO

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 08:08 PM

Izuka makes violas with this shape, but I'm not sure if the viola on your photo is a Izuka.

It seems that Grancino made a viola with a similar outline, but I may be wrong.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 09:01 PM

Hi!

Everyone knows that makers are still experimenting with viola' shape and size... I've seen quite a few instruments using the shape of the picture bellow... Does this shape have a name? Is it inspired in some earlier instrument or it was created by the maker Iizuka?

Thanks a lot!

This is a Virtuoso Cut Away by Otto Erdesz which was deisgned for violist Rivka Golani. He made about 30 of them in the 1970's. They never really caught on because of the asymmetry. If you play a lot of contemporary viola music they are great.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 09:16 PM

Hi!

Everyone knows that makers are still experimenting with viola' shape and size... I've seen quite a few instruments using the shape of the picture bellow... Does this shape have a name? Is it inspired in some earlier instrument or it was created by the maker Iizuka?

I have a friend with a viola d'amore of that shape. I think that was the shape of some of those. They had 6 strings and a lot of sympathetic ones.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 09:32 PM

Iizuka has mentioned that his design was inspired by a viola d'amore.
Here's one on utube with a similar shape, http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

Here's one I made this winter, as a special commission, sort of along those similar lines
A viola, not a d'amore
It's in mid-varnish in the pictures.


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Posted 16 August 2009 - 09:55 PM

Here's a Zanetto, courtesy of Darnton Hersh, bottom of page
http://www.darntonhe...hp?article_id=3
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Posted 16 August 2009 - 10:28 PM

Gasparo de Salo's design is one of my favorite viola shapes. This model even has a purty painting on the inside. :)

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 10:41 PM

Gasparo de Salo's design is one of my favorite viola shapes. This model even has a purty painting on the inside. :)

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That back is beautiful. Any idea what kind of wood it is?

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 10:46 PM

No sorry, I never asked the maker. You could though. :) As you'll see, she puts quite an artistic flair into all of her instruments.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 11:28 PM

No sorry, I never asked the maker. You could though. :) As you'll see, she puts quite an artistic flair into all of her instruments.


Hey man, thats the kind of music that makes me feel like I can go out there and be someone :)

She's great, thanks for that.She's like my new role model. Got to go, the new phone books are here.

#11 Rviolist

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 05:50 AM

Manfio, you're right! That viola is not a Iizuka... this one is.

I've seen Anne Cole's instruments and have tried some of them, too. It's quite intresting how she goes from 14 inches to 20 inches violas... and they sound pretty cool! Her website shows some other different shapes and talking to her about her artistic thoughts about the instruments is kind of nice, too.

Botton line, Iiizuka did not create the model, but was ispired by the old Viola D'amore's design in order to be one of the best viola makers of 20th/21st centuries? Does he have a website? O did not find any when googleing his name... :)

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#12 Doug Marples

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 06:11 AM

Gasparo de Salo's design is one of my favorite viola shapes. This model even has a purty painting on the inside. :)

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This instrument doesn't remind me of anything I've seen by Gasparo-can you enlighten me?

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 06:15 AM

Doug, this viola is on the Hill Collection, on the Ashmoleum Museum, Oxford, England. There are photos of it on David Boyden's book on the Hill Collection.

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 10:11 AM

This instrument doesn't remind me of anything I've seen by Gasparo-can you enlighten me?

Doug



hi Doug, i think here's a shot of it, about midway down the page: http://www.viola-in-...-the-viola.html

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 10:18 AM

The top of this Gasparo is made of cedar of Lebanon, if I'm not wrong.

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 11:30 AM

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 05:01 PM

I have to say that Gasparo is the coolest viola I've ever seen. It says it is a viola-lira. How does that relate in size to a modern contralto viola?

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 05:07 PM

As long as we are playing "weird viola show and tell" here are a couple of instruments to ponder

The first is I believe a 19th century French Viola with a 16 3/8" body.
The second is a pre WWII Markneukirchen with a 16 5/8" body.

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#19 Doug Marples

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 05:14 PM

hi Doug, i think here's a shot of it, about midway down the page: http://www.viola-in-...-the-viola.html

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Right you are-thanks!

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#20 Rviolist

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 08:29 PM

How about this one??? I think it's called "Pelligrina," but the spelling is probably wrong!

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Does some one have pictures of the Iizuka's "Rubenesnke" model?




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